June 9

Prabhupāda: In the Caitanya-caritāmṛta it is said, ekale īśvara kṛṣṇa ara saba bhṛtya. [baby making noises] [aside:] He will disturb. Īśvara. Īśvara means master or the controller. Actually only Kṛṣṇa is master. Even Lord Śiva, Lord Brahmā, or incarnation of Viṣṇu, all of them are, in one sense, even Rādhārāṇī, all are servants. Ekale īśvara kṛṣṇa ara saba bhṛtya. So in that sense, in this New Vrindaban the master is Kṛṣṇa, and we are all servants. But there are division of duties of the servants, and they should discharge. Just like in our propagation of Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement there are certain duties entrusted to certain devotee, and if he faithfully carries out that duty, that is his perfection. The spiritual master is the representative of Kṛṣṇa, and the duty allotted by him to a certain person, that should be his execution of spiritual duties. So this New Vrindaban, master is Kṛṣṇa. Now we should specifically divide duties amongst ourselves and discharge such duties faithfully. Then, by the grace of Kṛṣṇa, as you are growing up to now, the system and the prescription is very nicely being conducted. And this will help us more and more progress. So in this meeting I think we should allot different kinds of duties to different persons and execute. So you say something. [break] …temple. I don’t think it can take more than two hours.

Prabhupāda: Yes, simply water. So they do not like to take it. Actually, they do not want God; they want māyā. Otherwise, if anyone wants God, Kṛṣṇa, there is no difficulty. Kṛṣṇa says, man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru [Bg. 18.65], mām evaiśyasi asaṁśayaḥ. Four things. “Just always think of Me,” man-manā. Mad-bhaktaḥ: “Just become My devotee.” Mad-yājī: “You worship Me and offer your obeisances unto Me. If you do simply these four things, then you are coming back to Me without any doubt.” These four things. But they cannot do it or will not do it. Otherwise, very simple. We are thinking of something always. Simply we have to replace Kṛṣṇa. No. They’ll think so many other things except Kṛṣṇa. This is the difficulty. Otherwise, it is not at all difficult. Man-manā bhava mad-bhakto mad-yājī māṁ namaskuru. This is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. They’ll make a program: “Thoughtlessness.” That lady was…

So this Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is a question and answer. The beginning, the… This Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, first of all it was narrated by Vyāsadeva, and it was heard by his son, Śukadeva Gosvāmī. Then Śukadeva Gosvāmī narrated this Bhāgavatam to Parīkṣit Mahārāja at the time of his death. And from Śukadeva Gosvāmī, the Sūta Gosvāmī heard. This is the paramparā. [aside:] Not yet. This is the paramparā. Kṛṣṇa says in the Fourth Chapter of Bhagavad-gītā, evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ. Bhagavad-gītā was spoken by Kṛṣṇa millions of years ago to the sun-god. Imaṁ vivasvate, proktavān avyayam. Imaṁ vivasvate proktam, vivasvān manave prāha manur ikṣvākave ‘bravīt. This is the paramparā system. Our this Bhāgavata system, or Vedic system, is not research work. It is not research work. Nowadays it is a fashion that… Just like the theosophists, they’re searching out God. Since the beginning, they’re searching out. And so many leaders came and gone, but they are searching out. And they will go on searching out for lives together. But it is not a thing to be searched out. It is not ordinary thing, not material thing. You know…

Nalinikantha: This chapter is entitled “Prahlāda Instructs His Demoniac Schoolmates.” Teaching the children. Prabhupāda: He was taking opportunity to preach Kṛṣṇa consciousness during tiffin hours. When the teachers would go away—during tiffin time, of course, the teachers go away—and Prahlāda Mahārāja immediately will… [aside:] Āsun. Let him come here. He’d immediately take the opportunity of preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness. [greets Indian guests in Bengali] Āsun, come on. [break] …Kṛṣṇa consciousness even in the classroom. All the school friends were sons of demons, means atheist class of men. So they did not know anything about God, and Prahlāda Mahārāja was taking advantage of the school tiffin hour and preaching. So his first beginning of the teaching was kaumāra ācaret prajño dharmān bhāgavtān iha: “From the beginning of life, when we are children, we should learn about Kṛṣṇa consciousness.” That is the beginning of his teachings. Go on.

Prabhupāda: No clear conception, scientific idea. Therefore educated persons, they are not interested. “God, give us daily bread.” They will say, “Why we shall go to church for begging bread? We can manufacture it, large quantity.” [laughs] Why they should go? Formality: “God, give us our daily bread.” “Just open a big factory and eat as much bread as we like. Why should we go to God?” [break] …Jawaharlal Nehru, he took this view, that “For economic development why should you go to the temple, ask this demigod, that demigod, ‘Give me this. Give me this’? Develop industry and get money to enjoy.” That is his view. [break] …description of God in Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam begins, janmādy asya yato ‘nvayād itarataś cārtheṣv abhijñaḥ sva-rāṭ. This is God, the origin of everything. Who is there who can challenge this explanation, “The origin of everything”? Now, what is that origin? Whether it is matter or senscient? No. Janmādy asya yato ‘nvayād itarataś ca abhijñaḥ. He knows everything. Therefore He’s a person. Otherwise, how He can be origin of everything? Anvayād itarataś ca. Suppose I… If I have manufactured this car, then I know every nook and corner of this car, how I have manufactured. One who has manufactured, he knows how it is working, every minute feature. Even an expert driver, he knows how many parts are there, which part is… Anvayād itarataś ca artheṣu abhijñaḥ. If He’s abhijñaḥ, if He’s completely ...

Prabhupāda: “…afraid of me, what kind of child? [laughs] Where you got so much strength?” And the answer here,  na kevalaṁ me bhavataś ca rājan sa vai balaṁ balināṁ cāpareṣām pare ‘vare ‘mī sthira-jaṅgamā ye brahmādayo yena vaśaṁ praṇītāḥ “Prahlāda Mahārāja said, ‘My dear King, the source of my strength, of which you are asking, is also the source of yours, by which you are challenging. Indeed, the original source of all kinds of strength is one. He is not only your strength or mine, but the only strength for everyone. Without Him, no one can get any strength, whether moving or not moving, superior or inferior. Everyone, including Lord Brahmā, is controlled by the strength of the Supreme Personality of Godhead.’ ”  so ‘haṁ vikatthamānasya śiraḥ kāyād dharāmi te gopāyeta haris tvādya yas te śaraṇam īpsitam “All right, let me see how your strength is coming. Now I shall kill you. Come on. Let me see [laughs] how your God is coming to save you.” This is atheism, challenging. And when He appeared, the Hiraṇyakaśipu became a fly [laughs] in front of… Eh? Where is such language? Even there are many Sanskrit scholars now, they cannot produce such language. That is not possible. And five thousand years before, Vyāsadeva presented this unique language. 

Prabhupāda: …can have so many engagements. Simply by making dress, we remain Kṛṣṇa conscious. Simply by cooking, we remain Kṛṣṇa conscious. Simply by cleansing the floor, we remain Kṛṣṇa conscious. Easiest method. Everyone can remain Kṛṣṇa conscious in any circumstance. Ahaituky apratihatā. It is not condition that “You have to become like this; then you’ll become Kṛṣṇa conscious.” No. In whatever position you are, you become Kṛṣṇa conscious. No extra intelligence required. Śrī-vigrahārādhana-nitya-nānā-śṛṅgāra-tan-mandira-mārjanādau. Either you dress the Deity or you cleanse the floor of the temple, the same thing. You get the result the same. Tan-mandira-mārjanādesu. Anything you do. Somebody is cleansing, somebody is chanting, somebody is cooking, somebody is printing, somebody is selling books—everything is Kṛṣṇa conscious. And that is the best yoga. Sa me yuktatamo mataḥ. Yoginām api sarveṣām: “Of all the yogīs, who is thinking of Me, always in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, is the topmost yogī.” “By meditation I am trying to become God.” “By meditation one can become God.” This is their foolish theory. Kṛṣṇa, when He exhibited His godly power at the age of three months, where was meditation? [laughs] God is always God. You cannot become by meditation God. You can become godly; that is possible.

So you can say that “God is dead” or “There is no God,” but that is not the fact. The atheist class of men, they want that there may not be any God; they can do whatever they like. That is not possible. Just like in a small state there are so many CID, police and so many other depart…, detectives, just to find out who is transgressing the law. So in this big government of the universe, how do you think that there is no system of finding out who is culprit? So what is adharma? Etair adharmo vijñātaḥ. Adharma, irreligiosity, or transgressing the law, that is adharma. Dharma and adharma… Dharma means obeying the laws. Just like good citizen means who is obeying the laws of the state. He is good citizen. And other person, who is disobeying, they are called outlaws. So what is dharma? Just like it is the duty of good citizen to abide by the laws of the state, similarly, dharmī, a person who is religious, means who is abiding by the laws of God. That’s all. And who is not abiding, he is adharmi. That is the difference.